I take back what i said before their good for their price and they dont look to bad ethier. And I like the fact that the logo will never come off because it is lasered on.

The 16" crash is well too ringy and it sustains for well too long. But the regular hats and 10" splash don't sound don't sound bad at all and you can't really hear the overtones of the ride when you play with a band or along to music. It is a good starter to intermmidiate set. Good all round.

Hope this has been helpful.