[QUOTE=SBL1]They may do a specific thing well, but in general, they are dry. Maybe they "warm" up a birch's sound because of that....? Let us know!

The set I heard them on sounded like shit, but then again, I didn't put them on, and I didn't tune them myself either, so maybe I'm not giving them a fair shake. On this kit, they sounded like boxes full of mud. little definition and no tone.[/QUOTE]

shake more than 3 times and your playin with yourself

 shake more than 3 times and your playin with yourself

[/QUOTE]

say that to a nun with a tamborine