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The Complete Drummer
crash
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I'm not dis'ing theory. Phil is playing blues and for him I don't think he should get over technical. If you want to master all music theory is a must. In pop, blues, punk theory is simplified. If you can't "get it" by just using your ears you'll just get farther away from the true sense of blues. Technically simple but hard to feel. It's more a space between the notes thing.
The guy with the prettiest drums
Always gets the gig!
bluzman
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You guys are all making good points. I can read any drum notation, that's it for my theory knowledge.

Simply put, I'm giving the bass player my foot and the guitarist my hand(s). My playing (mostly) is feel-based and the technical aspects are time-based. Ground-breaking info, huh!

Lee said it in another thread and Phil says it again about the the space inside and how you use it.

For the record, I do NOT consider myself to be a complete drummer!
Phil

SBL1

"Grandmaster WTF"



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I hear ya man. If you can't "feel it" (or at least learn to) then you should probably give it up, and NO amount of theory will save you. But don't underestimate what a little formal training, complete with theory (learning to read, etc.) can do for your blues, and pop. (Punk is kinda anti-theory, all attitude, so we won't even go there Devilish)

I know there are some awesome drummers who wouldn't know a quarter note from a quarter cup, so please don't think I'm "dis'ing" drummers that don't know theory. I'm not at all. Pleased


Lee

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BEERBELLY
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The complete drummer??? One of the first things I learnt many years ago was to "listen" to the other musicians playing around you. A good drummer can take a band high but also take it down. The drummer is the "dynamics" in the band. One of the biggest compliments I got was from a bunch of old session players when they said "It's nice to play with a sympathetic drummer for a change". Being a Pipe Band drummer I was schooled in technically demanding rudiments and reading music. I hated reading music. If you've ever seen a Pipe Band drum score ...... the page is black with notation, but now I realise how many doors it opened for me. One thing is for sure .... You never stop learning.

drummer5359

"DW pilot"


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This is true. Some of us have been at this well over thirty years, and we never stop learning.
-Mike of Baltimore

We don't stop playing because we grow old.
We grow old because we stop playing.

If all the worlds a stage, I want to operate the trap door...


devoted2gretsch

"Astroballer!"


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If you ever did, there'd be no point in continuing to play.

Duncan





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crash
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I would keep playing just because I have so much fun doing it.



If a drummer can't twirl his sticks he ain't worth nothing.
The guy with the prettiest drums
Always gets the gig!
bluzman
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Drum-World's Complete Drummer requirements:

1- Has a double pedal and plays very fast with hands and feet. Leave no space or some egotistical soloist or singer might chime in. Forget tempo because you may not get the same effect from your licks if the tempo isn't right for you. Nothing else matters. It's all about you.

2- PLAY AS LOUD AS YOU CAN!

3- Image is important. Bring the largest kit you can get your hands on. If you're not getting at least 50% of the stage find another band with better priorities.

4- Should have at the least a 20min. drum solo prepared.

5- If a drummer can't twirl his sticks he ain't worth nothing.
Phil

SBL1

"Grandmaster WTF"



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also don't bathe too much, and use a cooler full of beer for a drum throne
Lee

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bluzman
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Drum-World's Complete Drummer requirements:

1- Has a double pedal and plays very fast with hands and feet. Leave no space or some egotistical soloist or singer might chime in. Forget tempo because you may not get the same effect from your licks if the tempo isn't right for you. Nothing else matters. It's all about you.

2- PLAY AS LOUD AS YOU CAN!

3- Image is important. Bring the largest kit you can get your hands on. If you're not getting at least 50% of the stage find another band with better priorities.

4- Should have at the least a 20min. drum solo prepared.

5- If a drummer can't twirl his sticks he ain't worth nothing.

6- Don't bathe too much, and use a cooler full of beer for a drum throne
Phil
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