Ringo was definately not a technical wizard, but for what he did, he was very good, and WAY more influential than most of us realize! His best attribute was his unmistakable FEEL. Real laid back and in the pocket. He was (is) a shining example of how to play a song, not just how to play the drums.

Lee

Although I don't like Ringo Starr's drumming much I agree with SBL1 that he did what he did well.  But he didn't push the envelope at all - unlike the other Beatles who really transformed Pop music (not metal or rock AT ALL!) during their time together.

Did you know that when Bonham died the English newspapers went crazy picking drummers to replace him in Zeppelin - and Ringo was one of their 'hot favourites'!  LOL!!! Thank goodness they decided to quit - while there's many great drummers out there; NO-ONE could replace him and certainly NOT Ringo Starr!

IMHO.

Uhhh....no, sorry.  Don't know what you mean.

Van Halen... Rush...Led Zeppelin ROCK!!  Those are some fantastic bands.  

BUT  they are most certainly not *Metal*...old or otherwise.  They are considered Hard Rock.

Examples of Head bangin Old Metal would be: Judas Priest,  Iron Maiden, Accept, etc.

My 2 cents.

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That's true but, Led Zepplin arrived on the scene before Metal was even a thought.  Their style would be classified as hard rock now, but then (late 60's)they were about as heavy as you got.  They were heavier than the Doors, Steppenwolf, Vanilla Fudge, and their contemporaries.  Iron Maiden hadn't made it yet.

As for Ringo, I agree with the others.  He was great at what he did.  He would never be accused of "overplaying".  He played the songs.  Putting him in Bonham's place in Zep would be like replacing the jet engine in a Fighter plane with a table fan.

MHO anyway.

If you want to get technical....bands such as Led Zeppelin, Eagles, Steppenwolf, Doors, etc.  most big name bands from the 60's & 70's.....are considered "Classic Rock"

2 more cents lol.

well i grew up listening to older metal (ex. ealry megadeath,death angel, forbidden, anthrax , saxon , overkill , man of war , s.o.d. , nuclear assault , sepultura , cannibal coarpse,judas preist etc...   and then bands that were classified as hard rock which include harem scarem , dio , dokken , Y & T , killer dwarfs , TNT , alice cooper , skid row , metallica , pantera , iron maiden , blue murder , black n' blue , van halen , scorpions , man the lsit can go on and on . i really think that in every genre there are key players,but honestly if the playng fits the music their doing what they needed to do right ?? i grew up listening to alot of styles of music,and haven't really seen a genre yet in my lifetime that didn't serve a purpose musically speaking ... 

sam(otacon28)

[QUOTE=kev82668]Don't forget about Scott Rockenfield (Queensryche), Nicko McBrain (Iron Maiden), Joey Scott Harges (Lizzy Borden), Nick Menza (Megadeth), Lars Ulrich (Metallica), Jason Bonham (JBB), and Tommy Lee (Crue) just to name a few.[/QUOTE]

is this considered old metal now i feel old

has anyone mentioned mitch mitchell yet he worked those BD triplets with the best of them

Mitch was a good drummer I loved Experience... but again we've gotten into this faster is better thing...  It's about the groove guys and gals...  That is WHY Ringo and Charlie Watts are considered 2 of the BEST rock drummers of all times. 

Why do new metal drummers have a hard time playing older stuff?  Because they are not listening to the MUSIC they are trying to show how fast they are and how much they can play thier double bass.

BTW Mitch was not a real "Double Bass Player"  from drummerworld.com: Mitch is a jazz influenced player, especially Elvin Jones but also Max Roach and Joe Morello. He uses the underhand or military grip switching to matched for tom work. He used a variety of kits: first Premier with 20" bass & 14x 8" top tom, then a Ludwig Silver Sparkle in the classic jazz setup: 22" bass, 13x9" top, 14x14" & 16x16" floor, Ludwig Supra-phonic snare. Cymbals varied but typically: 15" Hi-hat, 20" ride, 20" & 22" crash and later a 22" or 24" riveted ride. In 1969 he moved to a Ludwig double bass kit with 24" bass drums and additional 12x8" top tom, then the same setup on Gretsch (possibly Ludwig sponsorship in Europe and Gretsch in USA). The double kit didn't change his style, it just added some tonal variety. Sticks were medium/heavy and he played seated low in a hunched position.
See people..  Learn to play it with one foot.....

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