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Floor Tom Frustration
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gclin



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Go for calf!

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Gene
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A leg man!Devilish
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I'm a leg man too, what are we talking about?
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Can someone explain to me the ec2 differences? (I.E. sst, coated, non coated...) thanks
D.B.H.


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I have found I like Remo heads best & on my floor tom I use a Suede Emperor on top & a coated Ambadasor on the bottom. I use the natural color Suede heads as I don't care for the sound or look of the black ones though I do use a black suede snare side head on my snare drums.
DBH
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mrhappycow



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Nice to see you posting here DBH. Very good advice. One question since I see you use suede. How does the black coating change the sound of the head? More dry more boomy...?

Also if you could please post in the introduction section that would be splendid. Everyone hear would love to hear a bit more about you.

So whenever you get a chance could you post there telling us about your kit your musical tastes a basic background (name age where you live)
Again thanks DBH great to have you here
Matt the happy cow.

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With nothing but respect for everyone here, I must say that any of the heads mentioned are capable of a great sound on a 16" tom. BUT, a 16x16 is a TOUGH drum to tune. I no longer use them with my own my own sets or when I have input into what I will be provided to play on.

A 16" tom will create a lot of overtones. Tuned well I love them (though as I said, I'm a 14X16 guy now). If that bugs you get out tissues and duct tape. Zero rings or Moongel wont do it alone. Hal Blaine, Steve Gadd and other studio greats have used this tried and true method for years.

If you don't mind some ring, but just would prefer hearing less high overtones, Moongel works well, and it is my personal muffling technique when I feel muffling is needed. Some like zero rings, but for me they are too non negotiable in terms of how much they muffle. For that matter, there are times that I cut moongel in half. Put a G2, an Emperor, an EC2, a Pinstripe on and tune it without muffling. Get all the lugs top and bottom as close to the same pitch as you can. Get the drum to really sing without regard for overtones. Now start experimenting with different muffling. Bring up the pitch of the bottom head a bit if you're not getting good focus and a nice decay. Sometimes just detuning one lug on the top head gives it a nice 'bend", especially with the tissue and duct tape approach. Purists frown on this, but the truly great players I've known are seldom the purists.

If you try all of these things, and still cant' get a sound you like, you probably don't like a 16x16, or the drum just sucks and should be made into a laundry hamper.

Like everyone here, I have head preferences. BUT I can get a great sound out of any of these heads with some effort.

I'm curious to hear how this works out for you.

PS (I have also heard that the new EC2s are a big improvement over the original ones. Haven't played them).
Gene
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