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Diril Raw Ride
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malletjazz3


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I recently promised my wife and myself (not necessarily in that order) that I'd tone down the cymbal acquisitions for a while, and for the time being just go with what I've already the cymbals I already have. However, I couldn't resist this one when it showed up "used" in a local store.

It's a 20" Diril Raw Ride. I don't have a scale, but the weight marked underneath the bell is 1680g, which is about 300g lighter than my next lightest 20" cymbal. It's dry, but not so dry as to be sterile, and it opens up quite nicely when crashed.









And the obligatory hideous sound files:

• cymbal by itself: http://www.malletjazz.com/cymb...turk/20_diril_turk_01.mp3

• cymbal on the kit: http://www.malletjazz.com/cymb...turk/20_diril_turk_02.mp3
"I played with Holdsworth, Fripp, and Belew...I wish we drummers could play that differently. Drummers are starting to homogenize into the same guy, which frightens me." - Bill Bruford

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gclin



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Nice!

I wouldn't have let that one get away either.

Pleased
Gene
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malletjazz3



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I actually walked away from it twice before buying it.

First time I saw it was at a local Daddy's Junky Music (primarily a used instrument store, for those of you not in the Northeast US). Thought it was cool, but I didn't have the coin for it.

Daddy's has a number of stores in the Northeast, and if an item doesn't sell within a month or so, they ship it off to another location, rather than letting it sit gathering dust in a market that doesn't want it. So eventually, the cymbal went somewhere else.

About a month ago, it resurfaced at another Daddy's, this time about 20 minutes closer to me. The Cymbal Gods were speaking, right? I went, checked it out again, and dug it as much as the first time, but in a rare fit of fiscal responsibility, I walked away. After getting booked to play drums for a musical next month, I decided to buy myself an early Christmas present (and a tax-deductible one at that!).

I'm still familiarizing myself with it, but it seems to pair up beautifully with just about any "jazzy" cymbal I've got - my other Diril, a couple of Agops, my Paiste Traditionals... It might serve as a primary for a fairly quiet gig, but I suspect it'll see more use as an alternate ride in a jazz setup.

I'm debating whether to put a rivet (or two) in it. I've experimented briefly with a rattler, and the results are intriguing, but I want to live with it a while longer before firing up the ol' drill press.
"I played with Holdsworth, Fripp, and Belew...I wish we drummers could play that differently. Drummers are starting to homogenize into the same guy, which frightens me." - Bill Bruford

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gclin



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Funny you should say it... A 3 rivet cluster cane to my mind when I heard it.


Gene
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drummer5359



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It's beautiful James, great score.

I've never been in a "Daddy's Junky Music store, but I shop online with them.


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malletjazz3



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Gene,

One reason why I hesitated a bit before buying this cymbal is, it's surprisingly close in sound and response to a 20" Paiste Sig Dark Dry ride - different alloy, different hammering, different weight, but not that far off. The bell on the Paiste isn't as integrated, but everything else is in the same ball park. Having a second cymbal that's fairly close makes it that much more tempting to drop a couple of rivets into the Diril.

I've got some time tomorrow - I'll get out some coins, some rivets, and some itty-bitty pieces of tape, to try and get a better idea of what this cymbal would sound like riveted.

Mike,

There can be some really good deals to be had at Daddy's. I got a couple of cases (one fiber, one soft bag) for thirty bucks, and last year, I snagged a set of Paiste Innovations hi-hats (imagine if a set of New Beats and a set of 2002s had a baby - great hats) for $60.

The cymbal where I bought the Diril is about five minutes' drive from a theatre where I've been playing musicals the past month or two. It really is as if the Cymbal Gods were saying, "C'mon...here it is...come and get it." LOL Devilish
"I played with Holdsworth, Fripp, and Belew...I wish we drummers could play that differently. Drummers are starting to homogenize into the same guy, which frightens me." - Bill Bruford

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http://www.facebook.com/malletjazz
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gclin



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Well, as I was posting I was waiting for this. I just won it. And coincidentally it has a 3 rivet cluster.Devilish


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Gene
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malletjazz3



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Hell yeah, Gene.

I did the three rivet cluster thingy in my 22" Agop ride, with fabulous results.



Tangentially...I think I'm going to cool it for a while when it comes to buying more cymbals, but I'm going to start setting aside a bit of coin. I've got a ton of Paistes, a bunch of modern day Turkish cymbals (Agop, Diril, etc.)...it may be time to get some modern Zildjian in the bag (besides my pang and swish, of course.)

That, or some UFIPs. Devilish
"I played with Holdsworth, Fripp, and Belew...I wish we drummers could play that differently. Drummers are starting to homogenize into the same guy, which frightens me." - Bill Bruford

http://www.malletjazz.com
http://www.facebook.com/malletjazz
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gclin



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...and I was thinking it might be time to buy something else...

But I do keep gravitating back to the K Customs. There's something about them that separates them from the crowd for me.

I find the Constantinoples to be amazing, but the Customs are more versatile.

Maybe we should start a cymbal exchange.


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Gene
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malletjazz3



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"The cymbal where I bought the Diril..." WTF?

The SHOP where I bought the Diril... Err...
"I played with Holdsworth, Fripp, and Belew...I wish we drummers could play that differently. Drummers are starting to homogenize into the same guy, which frightens me." - Bill Bruford

http://www.malletjazz.com
http://www.facebook.com/malletjazz
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